The Capri RS Rally Car is now registered/titled!

"MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner" (montegoman562) 11/16/2016 at 12:52 • Filed to: CAPRI, RS, RALLYX, PROJECT, 5.0, MERCURY MUSCLE

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Happily in it’s spot in the garage

WOOO HOOO now I can start getting better at driving it and get a set of winter wheels/tires for rally!

Check out dem Mercury’s!!!

CalzoneGolem > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 12:59

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I am glad you have as many Mercurys as before.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > CalzoneGolem 11/16/2016 at 13:04

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1 for 1. It was the right decision. Sure I could’ve found a Mustang in similar shape/condition but why would I want that? Besides, there’s already 2 of them in my region running RallyX. Gotta be different.

I’m thinking car #302 for the engine size. I normally use 562 for everything...but it might be time to change.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 13:15

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Since you’re now Montego-less, are you going to become CapriChap?

CalzoneGolem > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 13:15

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Were the Capris cheaper then similar ‘stangs?

S65 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 13:17

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you need a it would be super cool if you had a eel decal on that there Capri

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 14:13

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Woo hoo!

RallyWrench > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 17:04

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Next step: exhaust cutouts. It is the only way.

Frank Grimes > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/16/2016 at 22:29

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if i was a billionaire i would recreate this car.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Frank Grimes 11/17/2016 at 12:27

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Haha, there are a lot of Capri front end designs that have lower front bumpers. I actively avoided them.

This takes the heft wheel arches to the extreme though!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > RallyWrench 11/17/2016 at 12:28

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Nah, the backend actually has nice flowmaster tips on it even. Someone spent some nice money on them. Rear view:

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > S65 11/17/2016 at 12:49

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eel?

RallyWrench > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 12:50

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Ooh, nice. I didn’t realize it’s blue, this thing keeps getting better and better!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > CalzoneGolem 11/17/2016 at 12:52

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Roughly the same cost. to just clear it up, I paid 3k for the Capri. It was listed at 3500. That came with upgraded exhaust, carb/intake, strut tower/firewall brace and frame ties. Oh, and no rust. I saw mustangs in similar shape common similar mods for around the same price. biggest benefit would’ve been getting a newer one with fuel injection but I don’t think it’ll be a huge issue and I could always swap down the line.

I also wanted to be pre-1991. I registered as historic because it won’t be a daily driver and will only be driven to and from special events...not my fault they didn’t specify racing couldn’t be considered a special event LOL

CalzoneGolem > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 12:54

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I’m on my way to a car show at the finish line.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 11/17/2016 at 12:55

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I’ve debated changing it to MercuryMan562 or just MercuryMan but a few guys have said it doesn’t flow as well.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > RallyWrench 11/17/2016 at 12:56

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Haha I actually thought it was black when I was driving to it and I got there and was like...it’s BLUE?! OK cool.

RallyWrench > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 12:57

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That blue and the dark metallic green are my two dream Foxstang colors, love it.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 13:10

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I like MercuryMan, actually. Sounds just fine to me. Or MercuryMan562, seems to me it works at least as well as MontegoMan.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > CalzoneGolem 11/17/2016 at 13:16

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Michigan plate description:

A historical vehicle must be:

26 or more years old

Owned solely as a collector’s item

Used only for events such as historical club activities, parades and car show

Note: A vehicle registered with a historical or authentic plate cannot be used for routine, day-to-day transportation.

the “such as” gives me a legal grey area. and it won’t be used for day-to-day.

There’s another sub note somewhere that says I can do whatever I want in August. I don’t know why but yeah, August I’m set.

CalzoneGolem > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 13:18

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In my limited experience no one cares what you do but if you fuck up they will.

S65 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 13:20

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Ye

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > RallyWrench 11/17/2016 at 13:20

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Yeah I’m trying to pick out magnet rally number decal colors right now. I’m thinking black borders, letters, and numbers with red background.

RallyWrench > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 13:45

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Ta da!

Frank Grimes > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/17/2016 at 14:25

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oh yeah i forgot rallly. the flares are metal. I first saw this car in a metal fabrication book that showed a few photos of the flares being made. really beautiful work.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > S65 11/20/2016 at 00:51

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?

S65 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/20/2016 at 09:06

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An eel, decal

https://www.carstickers.com/Eel_Car_Stickers_and_Decals.php

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > S65 11/20/2016 at 11:55

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...But why?

S65 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/20/2016 at 12:10

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Ask not why but why not

and also eel is delicious

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > S65 11/20/2016 at 12:33

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I mean, there has to be SOME reason you want me to put an eel decal on my car. Cows are delicious too, I have no interest in putting a cow on my car.

S65 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/20/2016 at 12:43

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A cow would work too, or anything that tastes good

19JRC99 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/20/2016 at 21:50

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Keep the turbines! Eagle One Etching Mag cleaner makes ‘em look new. Always liked these. Props for it not being a bubble back- never liked ‘em.

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/22/2016 at 03:50

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Excuse my lack of knowledge, but what weather do you get in the winter? As in, what tires are you planning to use?

If you get any snow/ice, the tires will be the determining factor in the result, not power or suspension or anything else.

Also, does it have a limited slip diff? That’s probably the first thing to get if you don’t have it.

On a completely unrelated note, have you tried drivetribe yet? I’ve set up a tribe especially for those who occasionally race themselves, to make it easier to follow each other’s progress and event recaps :)

https://drivetribe.com/t/b4Nsfc2ORiybtU0UJN9z3g/aDodCJppRfePWqiW826LsA

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > S65 11/22/2016 at 12:16

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You have strange intentions for car decals....

S65 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/22/2016 at 12:18

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http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/product/decal-made-in-the-80s/

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 11/22/2016 at 12:28

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No problem on the lack of knowledge, I have no idea what you expect for weather over there, so that’s all fair.

Definite snow and ice. All my racing will be on dirt, mud, or snow. There is zero change I race on pavement of any kind. So I’ll be planning on a set of snow tires, or if I can find some gravel tire take offs used I’d grab those. I intend to drive on the current wheels/tires to and from the course and swap on location.

It does in fact have a factory limited slip!!!! From 1982!!! So my intention is to run the stock rear axle for a season or two (depending on it’s durability of course!) then upgrade the whole rear diff/axles to an 8.8 inch rear with an upgrade to 5 lug, as it’s only 4. I hear I can find any mid to late 90's Mustang and rip the whole rear axle assembly off and bolt it onto my car. That gets me rear disc brakes, the 5 lug, and an upgraded diff. I have to wait a bit for this upgrade due to costs. Not only will I need to upgrade the rear, but the front as well.....and that means I need 2 new sets of wheels and possible tires at that point. I have a 3 year old and another on the way so I can’t drop all the money at once!

I’ve never heard of drivetribe! I’ve only heard of wheelwell. I’ll check it out!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 19JRC99 11/22/2016 at 12:31

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Oh I have no interest in getting rid of the turbines. I need a secondary set of wheels/tires. Plan is to drive myself to events on the above wheels/tires then swap at the course for the “winter” aka “Rally” set. They actually look better than the above picture shows. I’ll keep the Eagle One product in mind though!

Someone local just offered me another set of turbines but I’m not sure about the price and they need tires. Someone has a set on craigslist near by of the typical 4 lug “pony wheels” for less money and they have winter tires on them (not great ones but better than nothing).

I actually wish it was a bubble back, but mainly because I like oddities and love Mercury.

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/22/2016 at 13:06

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Age of the LSD is not important as long as it works :)
Don’t worry about having to buy 2 sets of wheels, that’s just the beginning. I have 7 sets of wheels for my E36, and probably could use a few more to cover everything :D

When it comes to tires, especially if you’re going to use them in ice/snow, I’d suggest giving retread tires a shot - they are typically cheap, and have ridiculously soft compounds, meaning that you’ll leave all the fancy nokian-clad racers scratching their heads about how the heck can a Mercury beat them so badly.
If that fails, those same Nokian tires are a good way to go - hakka series (probably the R2 model) for when it is really cold, and WRD4 for when it is near 32F, as it’s good in the wet and competent in wintry conditions as well.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 11/22/2016 at 15:57

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Oh I know the age didn’t matter just threw in the age because I thought it was cool they actually included it in 1982.

Interesting idea on the re-treads. I didn’t think about those. Was just going to look for used to save cash. I’ll look into it, thanks!

I’ve got a few guys from the RallyX group here around Detroit giving me some tips on how to prep it for Rally.

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/23/2016 at 02:26

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Ooh, one very important thing when it comes to winter tires - their age is really important. A typical winter tire will be pretty much useless (for racing) after around 3 years.

I’d definitely try and get new tires. Have a look at some retreads (and keep in mind that if you do find really soft ones, they will be terrible on the road and you’ll likely be unable to balance the tires. Not that you should balance winter racing tires anyways) if you can’t afford a completely new set

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 11/23/2016 at 11:19

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There are actually guys running in our group that are on 6 and 7 year old winter tires that they bought new. They only run them at the course to save on them and keep them stored inside when not in use, so it helps.

It all comes down to budget, this is definitely a budget racing endeavor and if I don’t have cash for fixes and new tires....it’ll sit. I can’t take budget away from anywhere else for this (unfortunately).

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/23/2016 at 14:45

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If you keep the tires stored inside in the warmth, it might help, but a 6 year old tire will never be as good as a new one, the compound just can’t remain effective for that long, at least when it comes to regular winter tires. There are some exceptions when it comes to tires made specifically for racing, but that’s going a bit off topic.

Regardless of what anyone says, never buy winter tires that are more than 3 years old, especially for racing. No matter how they are stored, you can likely find a new tire (from a lesser/cheaper brand) that will have at least as much grip

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/23/2016 at 14:48

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Oh, in addition to my comment (which, since this is Kinja, I believe will show up below this one) - don’t look at the Nokians or Bridgestones when buying tires, there are some cheaper brand tires that will be more than competitive as well. Heck, I can try and help you find something if we figure out what conditions you can expect in wintertime there (approx. temperature range and amount of snow/ice). However, instead of a very long stream of comments here, we could make an equally long string of comments on drivetribe as that would be relevant to the tribe I’ve created :D

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 11/23/2016 at 14:57

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If I could get in I would be chatting on drivetribe!

I’m eying up some General Altimax Arctic’s, they’re very popular around here for using a winter tire. The temp range is going to be massive because I’ll be running the “winter” tire in the summer at events as well. The January or February race it will likely be below 10 (Fahrenheit) or -12 to -17 (Celsius). In the summer it could be all the way up to 90+ (F) or mid 30's (C). It seems like the Altimax Arctics and the Firestone Winterforce are the most popular in our region to run year round (racing only of course, anyone who drives to the track does a swap when they get there).

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/23/2016 at 15:14

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Keep an eye out here on oppo, people occasionally give out drivetribe invites - saw two posts like that yesterday.

As for the tires - do you run on 100% gravel in the summer? That would be the only place where a winter tire could be even remotely competitive.

What is the typical track surface in the winter? Do you maybe have an onboard video (from someone else, presumably) from past winters to get a feel for the conditions?

19JRC99 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/23/2016 at 20:40

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Glad to hear it. So many people ditched them and I never see them anymore. I’d post a before/after of the Eagle One but the pictures don’t show it.

Will Race For Food > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/25/2016 at 14:47

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I have great news for you:

See you on “We like to race” :)

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 19JRC99 11/25/2016 at 18:54

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I’m about to message a guy on Craigslist about a set of 10 holes. 100 bucks for the while set, I don’t think I can say say no to that

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Will Race For Food 11/25/2016 at 18:56

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Hahaha just saw it, got in, and popped in here for the link to the tribe!

19JRC99 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/26/2016 at 00:38

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Hard to. I jumped all over a set of AR Bajas for my Dakota. $80. How could I refuse that?!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 19JRC99 11/28/2016 at 10:39

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You can’t - that should be the cost PER wheel let alone a set. Just trying to figure out a meet up time with the guy now.

These are the wheels, comes with 4 ford center caps too. 15x8

Pixel > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/28/2016 at 16:14

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There’s another sub note somewhere that says I can do whatever I want in August. I don’t know why but yeah, August I’m set.

Because Woodward Dream Cruise .

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Pixel 11/28/2016 at 16:18

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That would be taking it out to a special event though.

Pixel > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/28/2016 at 16:23

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I think they want to make 100% sure no cop or insurance company is going to keep someone from being able to go to the cruise for any reason.

Last thing they need is the publicity that a Cop impounded someone’s car for driving it to dinner during the cruise or some similar some such.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Pixel 11/28/2016 at 16:33

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Ha, i never had any issues while driving the Montego around. Even with taking it to work on occasion. Cops really just do not care about historic plates around here. I may get some attention driving it in the snow to an event. But it’ll be going directly to and from a special event so I doubt I’ll get any trouble over it. If it ends up being an issue, I’ll reconsider.

19JRC99 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 11/28/2016 at 22:38

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Not bad. Can’t say I’m a fan of 10 holes, but that’s a good price.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > 19JRC99 11/29/2016 at 09:44

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Yeah they aren’t my first choice either. but for 100 bucks I can’t say no.

And the plan is to upgrade to 5 lug and an 8.8 rear with new axles at some point, maybe next summer, but definitely sooner than later, so I don’t want to invest in a really nice set of 4 lug’s when I fully intend to change the car so that 4 lugs won’t work anymore.

With the upgrade to 5 lugs I’m going to have to buy 2 more sets of wheels with the new axles. It also means swapping the front axles because 5 lug rear and 4 lug front is all kinds of silly.